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I got to gur cneg jvgu gur gerr but I really don't know what I'm doing wrong here. gur bjy vf fgvyy fghpx va gur friragu fdhner, ohg jvgu gur frpbaq ebj orvat sbhe ybat abj gur fgne zhfg or ng gur fgneg bs gur ynfg ebj. Ohg rira whfg sebz guvf cbvag nyy pyhrf frrz gb pbagenqvpg gur znyyrg'f jbeq ehyr? am I stupid?

I'm not sure what the specific issues are, but you got right the part about gur fgne orvat ng gur fgneg bs gur guveq ebj!

I had a great time working through this, however I wish that "Bjy" unq 5 frcnengr pynvzf vafgrnq bs orvat pbawbvarq. Sbe rknzcyr, V fgehttyrq gb gryy vs orvat va pryy 2 jbhyq fgvyy or n yvr, orpnhfr gur shyy fragrapr vf abg pbzcyrgryl gehr.

"the background is blue"

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V'z fgvyy vzcerffrq ol gur vatrahbfvgl bs guvf tnzr, fgvyy guvaxvat nobhg vg qnlf yngre. Jung n terng tnzr !

Trying to solve it always leads to a contradiction: 

(I have done the first step and already know that: navznyf ner ylvat)

Rry vf sbeprq vagb pryy 1 ol Qbt + Obbx. Bjy vf sbeprq vagb pryy 7 (fvapr pbyhza 2, ohg abg ebj 1 ohg nobir lrgv). Juvpu sbeprf Znyyrg vagb pryy 6 (fvapr qbt unf gb or va ebj 1 (sebz rry) naq qbt naq znyyrg pna'g or va fnzr ebj, naq znyyrg unf gb or orsber bjy) juvpu sbeprf Qvr vagb pryy 4 (fvapr unf gb or orsber bjy naq unf gb or va pbyhza 1 be 4). Sebz rry jr xabj gung ebj 2 vf gur bar jvgu gur 5 abgrf, fb ebj 1 bayl unf 4 abgrf, zrnavat pryy 3 vf Ubhfr naq pryy 2 vf qbt. Naq abj ebj 1 vf qbar ohg vg unf 2 navznyf jura gung pbagenqvpgf gur enoovg (fvapr "gurer ner gjb navznyf va gur svefg ebj" fubhyq or n yvr).

What am I missing?

"Sebz rry jr xabj gung ebj 2 vf gur bar jvgu gur 5 abgrf, fb ebj 1 bayl unf 4 abgrf" guvf fgrc

OMG, thank you

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Took me some time, but now I got it. I'm wondering though why the following is no valid solution: 

Gerr, Ubhfr, Enoovg, Znyyrg
Blfgre, Fxv, Zrqny, Sver
Qvr, Bjy, Qbt, Obbx, Fgne

Frrzf gb shysvyy rirel ehyr, rkprcg gur bar gung gur 3eq ebj unf gb or n jbeq. Fb vafgrnq V fbyirq vg ol fgnegvat sebz jung V gubhtug vf gur zbfg yvxryl jbeq sbe 3eq ebj naq onpxsvyyvat gur erfg.

ski? what is ski? there is no ski

V fubhyq unir cersnprq gung guvf vf n srj ynlref qrrc vagb gur tnzr nyernql. Vs lbh qba'g xabj jung Fxv vf, lbh ner abg rabhtu ynlref qrrc lrg. Lbh jvyy xabj bapr lbh unir ernpurq gung cneg bs gur chmmyr.

Got to that step but: V'z fgvyy n ovg pbashfrq; fvapr enoovg erdhverf abg 2 navznyf va gur svefg ebj, vg zhfg or 3, ohg bjy, blfgre, naq lrgv nyy pna'g or va gur svefg ebj, fb vg zhfg or enoovg. Fvapr enoovg zhfg or nsgre fzbxr, vg zhfg or va 3 juvyr ubhfr vf va 2, juvpu pbagenqvpgf rry'f abg arne ubhfr...

Jul gur blfgre pnag or va gur svefg ebj?

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Nuu, lbh'er evtug. V ernq lrgv'f "nsgre na ndhngvp navzny" naq sbetbg gb erirefr vg...

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nsgre gur rry orpbzrf n gerr, qbrf nalguvat ersreevat gb gur rry fgvyy nccyl gb vg?

Nope, vs lbh pna'g frr vg, vg qbrfa'g rkvfg, naq lbh pna vtaberf ehyrf gung zragvba vg

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uryc, V nz hafher jurgure gur ylvat ehyr fgvyy nccyvrf va ebhaq guerr

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It does, yes.

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I knew it is supposed to be “qb furyg…”, but what rule does “qfburyg…” violate? (rkpunatvat znyyrg naq obbx) Is this the direct next step after “uvg”? Also, jura fbzrguvat vf tbar, ehyrf eryngrq gb gung vgrz whfg trg vtaberq?

For the first question: Gur Znyyrg pna'g or va gur fnzr pbyhza nf gur Bjy.
Second one: Yup!

Oh my oh my what a fun puzzle! Really challenging and has implicit things to look out for towards the end, but VERY enjoyable altogether!

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Quite amazing how far beyond a run-of-the-mill Einstein puzzle this is.

Vg frrzrq gung gur qrrcre yriryf erdhver gur ragver chmmyr gb or n frdhrapr bs jbeqf, fb vg qvq srry n gnq ovg thrff-naq-purpx ng gvzrf. Gurer ner nyfb fbzr nzovthvgvrf orpnhfr Ratyvfu nf n ynathntr vf xvaq bs n zrff (rk: “rvgure N be O” pbhyq or rkpyhfvir be abg). Fgvyy ernyyl vaperqvoyr gung fb znal chmmyrf pbhyq or bireynccrq bagb bar nabgure!

rvgure hfhnyyl zrnaf bayl bar be gur bgure

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immediately lost interest in this "logic" puzzle when:  vg pnzr gb erdhver grfgvat nyy 210 pbzovangvbaf bs cbffvoyr vagrenpgvbaf.

it normally shouldn't come to this 😭

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What does "Animals are telling the truth" mean? Truth (or untruth) is not defined anywhere.

You can overall ignore things that don't seem relevant, and just follow the rules. So "animals are telling the truth" doesn't mean non-animals are lying for example.

For a more clear answer (rot13):
"Navznyf ner gryyvat gur gehgu" vfa'g eryrinag ng svefg ohg pbzrf vagb cynl yngre. Vs fbzrguvat qbrfa'g znxr frafr lbh pna nffhzr vg'f hfrq yngre.
Nsgre gung, yvrf ner jung lbh'q rkcrpg V thrff, fb n yvne fnlvat "V'z ba ebj 1" zrnaf vg'f abg ba ebj 1.

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I found it so hard to narrow down what could go where, but the discoveries were totally worth persevering! What a cleverly constructed game.

What does the mallet mean when it mentions a tree?

OK, I just found out.